Curse

ragnagard · May 21, 2008, 07:58 AM // 07:58

Hi all!

Note: Before anything, this is not an invincible build, a "hey it's perfect" build nor a "100% success" build. This is just suggestions and may not work.

While doing some things with my ele in raptor cave, i just though about other ways to do this cave for my other chars (my main, a ranger for example). I though this:

[skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
Atts: 12 Earth, 12 Water.

With this skills you can almost aggro all the cave or at least the group in the middle + Rekoff group and it's just 25 energy. Even a "sample" warrior with a staff/+5 weapon cand handle it :P.

I have done this with my Ranger and my necro, and in my tests I got about 1/2 of succesfully runs (meaning I killed Rekoff).

Of course there are some "bugs" in this build:

- You may not target Rekoff with sliver armor... this is an epic fail :P
- You may die if Rekoff's hit you with low hp. Thats not my fault rofl.
- You may get poor drops (haha, no one can save you from this!)
- You may not be able to lure em all :'(.
- If using Air of superiority, you may not get a needed recharge.

Here are some solutions:

- Using air of superiority (pve-only asuran skill) gives you some more time and sometimes.. a full skills recharge. If you have succesfully killed Rekoff, then this is a 3st opportunity to kill :P.
- Maybe when you are finished with Rekoff's group, you are lucky and with the second skills recharge you can lure the rest of the cave.. depends on you , lol.
- Mindbender can help if you dont have a primary profession running skill. I dunno as i still havent gone to get it.

The procedure:

· Exit Rata Sum.
· Do the /resign trick (optional)
· Pick Asuran blessing.
· Run to the cave entrance
· Target Rekoff (just look while pressing Ctrl key)
· Cast the skills in the order I put until Sliver armor (dont cast it)
· Run till rekoff luring as many raptor's as possible but having attention on the glyph duration. This is the most important part. No glyph on you = interrupted = no-no to farm.
· Give a kiss to rekoff and cast sliver armor.
· Re-cast Glyph + Myst form + Sliver if you can (or if you have energy! :P)

And Here are some samples (not template codes yet, sorry). Just ideas, using more pve-only skills like mentionead above may help a lot, but i will put the more non pve-only skills as possible ^^. I will just put the "needed" skills:

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Ranger:

[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Stone Striker[/skill][Skill]Storm's Embrace[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
Or:
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Stone Striker[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
Or:
[build=OgYTk4FfHydQZgdAVQ4AukHKXEA] (thanks to Voodoo Rage)

Stone striker is not needed, but being a ranger... armor vs elements help.

Video

Necro(mancer)
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
[HM Raptor Farmer;OAZDYTyLTuDfVJD8QsD5ixlwlA] (thanks to Fuzzy Taco)

Mesmer
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
Or:

[build=OQZTAyAPSSoqU4rKukHqVwEICA] (alternative, thanks to Sethellington)

Monk
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]

Assassin
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]
And/or any assassin native stances
[build prof=A/E earth=12 water=12 shadow=3][stoneflesh aura][armor of mist][death's charge][glyph of concentration][mist form][sliver armor][ebon battle standard of honor][air of superiority][/build] (thanks to Super Igor)

Dervish
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]

Maybe you like to use [Skill]Signet of Mystic Speed[/Skill] instead my suggestion. Up to you.

Warrior
[skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]

This sums about 35 energy. "Standard" 20 energy warrior + 15en Staff will do the job. Radiant mods may help too. You Can change the running skill for other warrior native stance, of course.

Paragon
[skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]

Same as warrior. But i recommend the running skill listed.

Ritualist
[skill]Stoneflesh Aura[/skill][skill]Armor of Mist[/skill][skill]Mist Form[/skill][skill]Glyph of Concentration[/skill][skill]Sliver Armor[/skill]

Ele
I dunno how to do this with ele... rofl! Seriously, pvxwiki build works better for ele.

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Note: Other builds to farm this with Ele, Assa, Mesmer, Warrior and Ranger, can be found at Sethellington's post on this thread: Go seek builds!

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Screenies showing it working:

(me, as a Ranger)
(Sethellington,as a Necro)

Let the flame begin! :P

/wave to all

cellardweller · May 21, 2008, 08:03 AM // 08:03

mist form doesn't stop you from being interrupted.

ragnagard · May 21, 2008, 08:09 AM // 08:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by cellardweller

mist form doesn't stop you from being interrupted.

If you carefully read the post (as you didnt), you will find that most part is casted "safelly" on the cave entrance AND one of the skills is Glyph of concentration, which description reads:

"For 15 seconds, your next 2 spells cannot be interrupted and ignore the effects of being Dazed."

I use Mist form as the first, sliver being the 2nd.

cellardweller · May 21, 2008, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by ragnagard

If you carefully read the post (as you didnt), you will find that most part is casted "safelly" on the cave entrance AND one of the skills is Glyph of concentration, which description reads:

"For 15 seconds, your next 2 spells cannot be interrupted and ignore the effects of being Dazed."

I use Mist form as the first, sliver being the 2nd.

how do you propose stopping glyph from being interrupted for your subsquent casts?

Hodgie · May 21, 2008, 08:27 AM // 08:27

looks good, ill have a try of them myself

*some people dont listen hehehe*

ragnagard · May 21, 2008, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Intention is to do it at the first try, but in my tests, i didnt have any trouble to recast the skills. Sliver armor evade % must have helped :P.

As you' have "all" the raptors around you they will interrupt you at the same time (almost). Just attacking while sliver does its job and/or using another skill first will do the job.

Remember that i didnt use the 8 slots, some profs have 2 or more free slots to use ^^.

Disrupting Stab has 10 sec recharge, more than the time you need to recast the 3 skills, so .. there it is :P.

I like your critics

absolutcrobi · May 21, 2008, 02:08 PM // 14:08

I tried running that cave as E/me using the mantra that prevents interruption but i have found that using channeling, that mantra and an all earth build is the best. Use all geomancers insignias stone striker and stoneflesh aura to reduce the dmg. Use mental block(asuran) then what ever your combo with keep sliver armour up as much as possible.

pixie the monk · May 21, 2008, 03:16 PM // 15:16

wouldn't a visage be epic in raptor cave for any prof ?
never bothered to try it tho because my assa farms em just fine..

Abonai Laguna · May 21, 2008, 04:19 PM // 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixie the monk

wouldn't a visage be epic in raptor cave for any prof ?
never bothered to try it tho because my assa farms em just fine..

visage=killing guild wars in raptor cave
use it someday
ITS SOOO FUNNY

Mr.Kotte · May 21, 2008, 04:20 PM // 16:20

Visage VS raptors in HM = error 005/007

PS: Visages doesnt activate through [mist form]

Sethellington · May 21, 2008, 04:46 PM // 16:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Visage VS raptors in HM = error 005/007

lol, win the thread.

Being · May 21, 2008, 05:22 PM // 17:22

For ranger adding [skill]serpents quickness[/skill] before casting spells might help. I might test this a bit later.

monk of the godss · May 21, 2008, 05:38 PM // 17:38

I'm guessing you got this build from the original ele mist form build for raptors on pvxwiki with swiftness>with unlimited mist form?

Sethellington · May 21, 2008, 06:57 PM // 18:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Kotte

Visage VS raptors in HM = error 005/007

PS: Visages doesnt activate through [mist form]

less win

adfasd

Sethellington · May 21, 2008, 07:04 PM // 19:04

ok, so on topic. i tried it (costing me 2 eles tomes -.-)

so yeah i guess it works, you have to be lucky with air of superiority benefits. so activate yuor speed boost, the glyph, then aggro everything, then use mist form and sliver armour. use air of superiority. hoep stuff recharges. if stuff doesn't recharge in time, try to get in another glyph and follow up with stoneflesh aura + mental block for the down time.

ragnagard · May 21, 2008, 07:08 PM // 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by monk of the godss

I'm guessing you got this build from the original ele mist form build for raptors on pvxwiki with swiftness>with unlimited mist form?

err.. what? I just though about what Ele skill could prevent damage to my ranger (didnt told that?). If I want to use sliver Ranger/ele has only one elite designed to this zone. And of course E/A works better than E/x here lol.

I think we should discuss the "other than ele" professions, as ele and/or warrior were able to farm this already :P.

And about visage.... cannot be used with sliver unless you'r an ele lol.

EDIT: of course that it works! Here is a Sshot of my build running on my ranger (ok ok, build was on a BETA stage :P):

Adja1005 · May 21, 2008, 08:23 PM // 20:23

PvXWiki has a decent R/Ele build utilising the elite skill Escape and Sliver Armour and i find it works really well for clearing the entire cave of raptors. But this looks like a good build too, i'll have to give it a shot

Marverick · May 21, 2008, 08:40 PM // 20:40

How are you going to recast GoC without getting it interrupted?

Sin AI doesn't spam attacks on recharge so you can't really predict when they use it... and with an entire cave's worth of aggro you can't reliably recast it...

ragnagard · May 21, 2008, 08:57 PM // 20:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marverick

How are you going to recast GoC without getting it interrupted?

Sin AI doesn't spam attacks on recharge so you can't really predict when they use it... and with an entire cave's worth of aggro you can't reliably recast it...

Believe me or try it :P.

I use glyph,form, sliver, air of superiority, ebon standard of honor and sometimes they interrupt the last one instead a glyph recast. Maybe using another skill first or even attacking. Never have problems using the glyph again. My main problem is not getting the correct reward from air of sup.

I think that i should have posted a video too.....

distilledwill · May 21, 2008, 09:01 PM // 21:01

Try [[Ebon Battle Standard Of Honor] and [[Air Of Superiority]. When combined with Sliver Armour theyre pretty powerful.